Funny r/justunsubbed mocks ITcels

FailedArtist

Die Alone
I've been a on/off lurker/member of that sub for quite a few years already, and while I generally respect its members and their stated motives, I cannot deny that their response to incels' viewpoints has been lacking and increasingly stale, especially of late.
I could voice my disagreement with the stark generalizations or the sometimes annoying preponderance of cringe-reaction content (i.e. DMs, dogpill-related content, etc.), but I think highlighting the biggest inconsistencies and untruths in their rebuttal of the blackpill might be more on point and productive.
Here we go:
  1. Rating people's attractiveness from 0 to 10 is juvenile and stupid! vs They should pursue girls in their own league! I''ve seen both arguments being made in the sub, and that's obviously confusing: conceding that "leagues" exist isn't basically agreeing with incels' idea of a "rating system" of some sort?
  2. A basic hygiene routine and being a decent person can go a long way! vs You cannot expect women to love you 'cause you've done the bare minimum! I mean, that's a no-brainer - we meet tons of polite and well-groomed people of our preferred gender(s) every day... do we want to bang all of them, though? Let's be honest: no!
  3. Ending your friendship with a woman who doesn't love you back is a jerk move! vs Staying friends with someone you've a crush on is dishonest! I concede that many "friendzoned" guys don't react too well to the "let's just be friends" offer, but being honest with someone and even ending the friendship isn't a bad move per se: if you want something different, why should you stay in a situation that is bad for your mental health? Conversely, if you can content yourself with being your crush's friend and don't make things awkward, what's wrong with it?
  4. Incels' homophobia is disgusting! vs Hahaha incels sound so gay when they talk about Chads! I get a joke every now and then, but sometimes it's too much, and a cheap way to get back at incels, while possibly hurting gay users on the sub (and I commend the members who call it out). Also, what if some incels were actually LGBTQ+? Seeing this kind of crude jokes even on a supposedly "progressive" space can scare them away and push them even deeper into internalized homophobia
  5. #ThisHappened: I get it, some stories posted on incel forums sound fake, and many incels can be unreliable narrators... but why is it so hard to believe that they might have been bullied by some nasty girl or abused by their parents? People (including women) can be bullies, too.
  6. I've been bullied/abused too, but I'm not a hateful incel! Sorry guys, but this sounds like the moral equivalent of the bootstrappy self-made man rhetoric: "I was poor too, but I worked hard and succeeded - I did, so you can and MUST, too!" - we don't know what goes on in incels' minds: some of them may have deep psychiatric disorders and be just a prank away from turning into shut-ins or murderous school shooters: don't brag too much about your moral luck.
  7. People can sense your misogyny IRL! vs Abusers are good at hiding their awful personalities! As frightening as it might sound, I'm totally ready to believe that many men perusing incel forums can look and sound as your average guy - a bit awkward or aloof, maybe, but surely not as potential school shooters or potential abusive partners: and denying that would put the sub in the rather nasty position of blaming victims/survivors for their own abuse.
  8. Incels are a threat to society! vs Incels are pussies who cannot resist a second outside their basements! This is related to the previous point - they cannot be both a threat to keep track on and a pitiable joke; such a view is both contradictory and... fascistic (just google Ur-fascism #8). This, is, my opinion, the biggest one: 'cause if the sub users really believe that incels are just a bunch of silly man-children, the sub has no business existing, as they can just move en masse to Cringetopia.
These are the problems I see - but how about what I'd like to see (or see more often) here?
  1. Normalizing being alone as a possible, totally acceptable fate - neither a punishment nor a reason to mock someone: as long as IncelTear's members say something like "That incel is awful, they deserve to stay a virgin!" they're conceding that being sexually unexperienced is some sort of anomaly, something which can only be explained by an individual's shortcoming; which is not only untrue, but also harmful to those people who are celibate due to different circumstances (illness/disability, bad social environment, etc.) with little to no fault on their part.
  2. Nuance: As strong as the temptation might be, people shouldn't see incels as a monolith - you have the insecure teenager and the embittered 30-something, the mentally ill and the fascist, the troll and the grifter: and each one must be engaged with in a different way, especially those who display more frustration than outright misogyny - you can't go gung-ho on bullied teens.
  3. Debunking: ok, ok, laughing at some incel's obvious trolling or appallingly bad anatomical takes is funny... but I'd also like to see some of the peer-reviewed studies they quote debunked, or at least re-contextualized - any academically-inclinded sub member?
This is it, folks - if IncelTear is to engage in de-radicalization in any meaningful way, they can and must do better: if they just want to laugh at "weirdos" and maybe feel a bit better about themselves, however, KiwiFarms is already doing a much better job than the sub could ever do, and it's 100% useless.
My 2 cents.
 

dsar9013

Ordained
They hate us no matter WHAT we do, that is the blackpill yoiu guys should take, most older incels know this from our experience back on r/incels during the heyday, I guess all the new teenagercels don't know about that, you can't trust them.
 

dsar9013

Ordained
I feel like you guys are coping not realizing the hatred against incels is VERY mainstream, hell I did some research about how Christians feel about incels, and they ALL seemed to hate us as well. Not to mention ofc liberals and even republicans hate us. It would be surprising if ANY normie didn't hate incels, from the research I did, be careful, these normies may pretend to be your friend, just to get your info and dox you as a hateful incel, I would caution against interacting with ANY normies as an incel, based on what I have seen.
 

IntolerantSocialist

Lebe dein Leben trotz anderer!
I feel like you guys are coping not realizing the hatred against incels is VERY mainstream, hell I did some research about how Christians feel about incels, and they ALL seemed to hate us as well. Not to mention ofc liberals and even republicans hate us. It would be surprising if ANY normie didn't hate incels, from the research I did, be careful, these normies may pretend to be your friend, just to get your info and dox you as a hateful incel, I would caution against interacting with ANY normies as an incel, based on what I have seen.
I don't care for demoralization. begone.
 

dsar9013

Ordained
I don't care for demoralization. begone.
Once again, another fakecel teenager who never lived a REAL incel life, yeah tell us how incel you are, while going to parties and having Chad friends, lol, meanwhile, actual incels like me never been to a party or had any normie friends IRL since being incel.
 

nazgul

Knight Templar
I feel like you guys are coping not realizing the hatred against incels is VERY mainstream, hell I did some research about how Christians feel about incels, and they ALL seemed to hate us as well. Not to mention ofc liberals and even republicans hate us. It would be surprising if ANY normie didn't hate incels, from the research I did, be careful, these normies may pretend to be your friend, just to get your info and dox you as a hateful incel, I would caution against interacting with ANY normies as an incel, based on what I have seen.
Yes I know it. My brother knows that I am incel, so he approached the argument telling me "I learned about a group online, they are called incels, how stupid they are". After 1 month I radicalized my brother. I know already that incels are seen as supreme assholes and evil.
 
Most incelTears users are cucks, obese foids, trannos. Remember that Norwoodina with a skirt and make up on, claiming he was a woman??

That freak was the definition of a giga coping incel. You wouldn't dress like a freak and pretend to be a "w0man" if you had a normal life with a normal partner.
i would bet good $, that if you take 20 random guys from this forum vs 20 guys from IT, we would mog them in looks from Hades and back.
 
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