Suifuel I am incel again

Iblis

Whoremaxxer
which is not wrong.
It is... I mean, basing your status as a virgn on if a foid likes you or not is cucked as fuck. People in the incelosphere need to stop basing their worth on what foids think of them. I had sex, thus I am not a virgin. If foids like me or not is irrelevant.
 

Ismail Ax

"Outrun your problem" Initiate
It is... I mean, basing your status as a virgn on if a foid likes you or not is cucked as fuck. People in the incelosphere need to stop basing their worth on what foids think of them. I had sex, thus I am not a virgin. If foids like me or not is irrelevant.
Funny, considering that never has happened unless you're a normie. No one here wants a foid to like them just to "clear their V-card" as suspicion.

There's something called "hate-fucks" where a foid wants you inside of them but also hates you in the moment as well, not sure but I'd say that's a sure-fire way of losing virginity than either paying or simping. It only counts if the foid didn't require payment to fuck you or wanted you to fuck them.

Atleast how I see it, saying anything else is just a clear cope. This is reality, man. The reality is it will never count if both doesn't want it.

Hell, I'd say a foid raping their spouse isn't for the virginity factor but reality is cucked like that, so somehow it "counts" in their favor. Not sure why.

In my probably final days, I might do so if I got the cash and time for it but it's not going to change my opinion on what I'm really missing out on that Chad gets for free.
 

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I don't think you have to worry about getting those outside of the third world. The ones here are pretty safe.
Not all of them are clean. I heard some horror stories in Montreal. Just donโ€™t sleep with the strippers in your area. High quality escorts are your safest bet.
 

Iblis

Whoremaxxer
It only counts if the foid didn't require payment
Again, if you have a gynocentric mindset where you focus on what the foid wants rather than what you want, like your average .is poster. This is a very modern concept that would have been seen as absurd and cucked to men of the past.

Again, these kind of posts just goes to show that a lot of people on these forums have gone full circle and are bluepilled volcels. You'd prefer fucking a black single mother who was into you over paying 100 bucks to fuck a blonde stacy who wasn't into you, that's what gynocentric poison does to your mind. You cannot get off unless you have m'lady's permission.
 
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Fucking escorts is not a big deal. I just wished I paid extra to donkey punch one of the bitches. One time I suplexed a bitch onto my bed, she got angry and left.
 

Ismail Ax

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Again, if you have a gynocentric mindset where you focus on what the foids wants rather than what you want, like your average .is poster. This is a very modern concept that would have been seen as absurd and cucked to men of the past.

Again, these kind of posts just goes to show that a lot of people on these forums have gone full circle and are bluepilled volcels. You'd prefer fucking a black single mother who was into you over paying 100 bucks to fuck a blonde stacy who wasn't into you, that's what gynocentric poison does to your mind.
I don't get what you mean by "gynocentric mindset"...

If that's what I think, it makes sense since your average foid can make a man's yearly mortgage in just a few days or overnight. If it's the other way, it still applies.

You're paying them still to give you a fuck for THEIR monetary benefit, that's what makes it so hilarious.... Yeah, paying them for nothing is even sadder but it still applies to this.

I mean, I know I said I'd probably do the same but there's no legit guarantee anyway. I might get so fucking fed up that I might just get forget all together or go a better based way of doing it even if it didn't count, I didn't validate the Chad-only hoe by paying her. I'd never support the idea of paying a foid for sex, it's absurd...

Sex was always something that should've been free and not rigged towards men who has no control over their poor looks. By paying, you're just enabling that BS.

Like I said, Lordgoro does it in a way that actually in a way makes it acceptable without being cucked. He gets over on them and films them on top of it.

That way if anything goes sideways, he still has the upper hand at the end. Like paying the foid to fuck them over literally and metaphorically, now that's based.

Again, not everyone can be to that level so whatever... but in reality, the shit is still cucked if that's not followed. Bluepillism is excusing it, not shunning it. It's complete cuckery.

I'd definitely take sex with some roastie for free compared to paying for a ROASTIE that has no difference on their sexual hang-ups. There's a complete difference there.

Funny how I would have to explain this...
 

Iblis

Whoremaxxer
I don't get what you mean by "gynocentric mindset"...
Gynocentrism is a dominant or exclusive focus on women in theory or practice; or to the advocacy of this. Anything can be considered gynocentric when it is concerned exclusively with a female point of view.

In 1914, author George A. Birmingham stated that "American social life seems to me gynocentric. It is arranged with a view to the convenience and delight of women. Men come in where and how they can."
You're paying them still to give you a fuck for THEIR monetary benefit
I know but I want sex so what else can I do? Unlike you volcel guys, I am actually incel, I need to satisfy my sexual needs and fapping doesn't cut it anymore.
Sex was always something that should've been free and not rigged towards men who has no control over their poor looks
Obviously, I agree. But I mentioned this in my 'in defense of whoremaxxing' thread as well; it's unfair but if you genuinely want your needs met, it's the only way. It's like saying you will refuse to eat because you think food should be free, it's not really an option. I need sex to remain sane and not cave in from how stressful and depressing life can be.
That way if anything goes sideways, he still has the upper hand at the end
I am guessing you mean he pays them afterwards? I cannot do that at a brothel anyway, since I have to pay first at a reception desk. With an escort, I am guessing she would just leave if I didn't pay upfront. Maybe goro is a Chad and that's why they're okay with it. As for the filming thing, I already have experience with making candids so I don't think it would be that hard to do, I just don't feel the need to make such a video. Especially since I dont' want to leave behind any potential evidence of my activities.
Bluepillism is excusing it, not shunning it
Not at all, most feminists are anti-prostitution, they don't want sub-8s to be having sex without jestermaxxing first because it puts all of the control in the man's hands. For an hour or two, she serves your needs like a slave. That's why prostitution is more androcentric (that is, male-centered) than sex in a relationship.
Funny how I would have to explain this...
Because it makes no sense, quite frankly.
 

Ismail Ax

"Outrun your problem" Initiate
I know but I want sex so what else can I do? Unlike you volcel guys, I am actually incel, I need to satisfy my sexual needs and fapping doesn't cut it anymore.
Has nothing to do with being "volcel", it's called principles. It's funny to rag onto simps who pay, but you're still doing the same thing regardless...

R*pe isn't the same, but you still got it for FREE and it's also not cucked in the slightest due to not validating the foid with your hard-earned money.

I don't know, call someone a simp but you can't deny you're doing the same thing that they're doing. Regardless, the foid gets all of your money at the end of the day.

Do what you want, I just see it as somewhat hypocrisy though.

Obviously, I agree. But I mentioned this in my 'in defense of whoremaxxing' thread as well; it's unfair but if you genuinely want your needs met, it's the only way. It's like saying you will refuse to eat because you think food should be free, it's not really an option. I need sex to remain sane and not cave in from how stressful and depressing life can be.
But that's the thing, you could get free food. The shit doesn't even compare. You can get free food, you cannot get free sex unless you r@pe.

The thing is one thing's legal, the other's "illegal". If there was a way to get free sex that didn't require famemaxxing or good-looks, you think anyone would pay? Jfl.

These normfucks know what they are doing, we will never have mandatory GFs or free government-paid sexual encounters because the foid's ain't getting anything truly out of it even though the government got more money than our entire lifespan, it's just another way of proof that we do live in a gynocratic world and it needs to change if it doesn't want it's self to become a world-wide ER factory. I think the few cases should've been proof of that, especially when Jake Davison was not a false flag.

Natural Selection if they refuse to change this bullshit because of their tight-ass agenda pandering.

I am guessing you mean he pays them afterwards? I cannot do that at a brothel anyway, since I have to pay first at a reception desk. With an escort, I am guessing she would just leave if I didn't pay upfront. Maybe goro is a Chad and that's why they're okay with it. As for the filming thing, I already have experience with making candids so I don't think it would be that hard to do, I just don't feel the need to make such a video. Especially since I dont' want to leave behind any potential evidence of my activities.
Go visit a backroom escort site or just ask him, he gave me a list of the ones he uses (I forgot the thread) and they seem better than those scam brothels.

Plus, I could never show myself at a brothel. It's too much stress on my mind. I want the stuff subtle and unknown, nothing else.

Not sure how people does that, but mogs with my uncontrollable public anxiety especially if it's based around matters like these...

I still also don't know how Goro does it but if it does happen, that's the better way. Atleast, you get to pay after you were satisfied compared to before.

Not how it should goes, the person getting the cash never should have the leeway. It's truly fucked up and no wonder there's even hooker serial killers, atleast from this:

Bust and you don't need to pay if you k*ll them for example, I wonder why Lordgoro never tried this even back then... Would've been giga-fucking-based.

Plus, I believe in case they make up any shit, he has either video evidence or something to expose them for fun. Still counts for something and gives you an upper hand.

Not at all, most feminists are anti-prostitution, they don't want sub-8s to be having sex without jestermaxxing first because it puts all of the control in the man's hands. For an hour or two, she serves your needs like a slave. That's why prostitution is more androcentric (that is, male-centered) than sex in a relationship.

Because it makes no sense, quite frankly.
For an hour or two, you don't even get a second hour unless you pay. If it was two per pay, then it'd be okay. No one can fully be satisfied in just an hour, atleast me.

If the standard was two hours, it'd be actually worth it but it's not. I'd never visit an escort/brothel whore/whatever for this context. It's a tide against you.

Having to pay the whore double heightens her ego because she just made $500 bucks over just laying there like a sack of tomatoes.

That being said, it's like blowing sand back into your face with a fan in their hand unless you got "fuck you" money that what they make is just a "penny" to you.

Unless you were rich and the money doesn't actually stab your income, then I would never attempt it but whatever... Your choice, but I find it fairly flawed.

And what I said does make sense, sex with a less attractive roastie for free could never compare to paying a more attractive roastie but with the same body count anyway.

That's what you said and it's just laughable...
 

Iblis

Whoremaxxer
Has nothing to do with being "volcel", it's called principles
See my comparison to food. Your body doesn't care about principles. And I'd say that I am staying true to my principles by fucking whores instead of dumpster-diving and jestermaxxing without a guarentee of sex.
You could say that only wanting 10/10 stacies and refusing to date any lower than that is also a case of having principles, but that's not really inceldom anymore.
Do what you want, I just see it as somewhat hypocrisy though
There's no hypocrisy because OnlyFans simps pay for something you can get for free. They also don't get to use the body of the foid they're paying. It's not the same shit, now you're just saying nonsensical shit to insult me.
Natural Selection if they refuse to change this bullshit because of their tight-ass agenda pandering
Bro, do you even read my posts? I agree with you that it's unfair, that's not the problem here. The thing is, we cannot change the system so you have two options: pay for sex or fap to porn like a cuck at home. I'd rather do the former for reasons already mentioned.
Go visit a backroom escort site or just ask him
I don't have my own place so it's not an option anyway. But independent escorts tend to be overpriced.
Not sure how people does that
Because I did not want to die a virgin. The fear of being in my 30s or 40s and realising I am still a virgin while normies have been having sex since their teens was way bigger than any sort of social anxiety I may have had. That's why I keep calling you guys volcels, you guys clearly lack the level of desperation that a truecel like me was feeling. The only reason why I didn't do this sooner was because of a lack of money. I felt fucking ashamed for having to fap to porn while I knew so many people out there were enjoying the real thing. And the real thing to me is not about a foid liking you, it's about sex.

no gym either, over.
At least you can buy weights and use them at home.
 

Ismail Ax

"Outrun your problem" Initiate
See my comparison to food. Your body doesn't care about principles. And I'd say that I am staying true to my principles by fucking whores instead of dumpster-diving and jestermaxxing without a guarentee of sex.
You could say that only wanting 10/10 stacies and refusing to date any lower than that is also a case of having principles, but that's not really inceldom anymore.
You could also say that you're "not hurting your wallet" just because it "doesn't have any feelings and can't feel anything", the argument doesn't make any sense.

Let's not forget that in reality, it's not even considered losing the virginity at all anyway. In nowhere in the books, did it say it even counted.

Reality is harsh, but you can't hide from it. Like I said before, paying for it ducking that it's "losing a V-card" is just like putting a band-aid on a wound that's badly hurt and basically like beyond seeing your flesh and thinking it'd just "heal" like that.

Yeah probably, if you want a disgusting infected wound that's badly healed due to the shit practice you tried to do if it does. Jfl.

You could say that only wanting 10/10 stacies and refusing to date any lower than that is also a case of having principles, but that's not really inceldom anymore.
It would just be proving these normfags' points, you're also proving their point if you pay as well of being a simp.

They even consider us "simps" because half people do admit they pay for the sex. At the end of the day, you're fueling their motto and it's like getting barebacked with your eyes closed. It's just sad.

Even then the former still couldn't be as bad as the second one because you're also standing your ground as well which is a based thing, there was a escortcel for example on .net where I was and even people there was telling him to stop paying because he's just validating these cuntrags and their ego. Dude even spent half of thousands on escorts hence why he was called "Saint Escortcel" or something, he also behaved Bluepilled at times as well too. If there was any truth to these normfags calling us "simps", it'd be that guy.

For anyone to follow in those same footsteps without any type of better changes that doesn't give the foid another ego, then you're part of the problem on that.

Just saying.

There's no hypocrisy because OnlyFans simps pay for something you can get for free. They also don't get to use the body of the foid they're paying. It's not the same shit, now you're just saying nonsensical shit to insult me.
They also pay for blatant sex with the foid, it's a way of saying in their mind that if they pay that the foid "would notice them and ask to sleep with them".

The blind worship tells that or they'd just pay and just see the foid as nothing but wankfuel and not white-knight worship them, desire for sex plays into it.

Nothing nonsensical about it but if you'd insult simps, atleast look no further than yourself if you do basically the same thing in the process.

That's where the "hypocrisy" part comes in and I dislike hypocrites who realizes what they are doing but does for a stupid "spite". That's where the mindset with dog-eat-dog comes in with these normfags who binge the same shit they try to ruin others for watching or doing, no contest basically.

Bro, do you even read my posts? I agree with you that it's unfair, that's not the problem here. The thing is, we cannot change the system so you have two options: pay for sex or fap to porn like a cuck at home. I'd rather do the former for reasons already mentioned.
Yeah, I do read your posts and they're fine for the most part except for this escort bullshit which I'd rag on anyone for.

Lordgoro does it in a way that's acceptable because the foid still doesn't get over him and he makes that clear as well. No pleasure, no gain. How it should be.

They're the one who made this broken cucked system, so it should be turned against them and not supported. Fapping to any porn doesn't count since you still didn't pay.

Paying is what makes you a cuck, you could have any fucked up fantasy but it doesn't count if money was never shelled out. That's my true mindset and I doubt it's flawed to anyone who's not a Bluepiller.

I don't have my own place so it's not an option anyway. But independent escorts tend to be overpriced.
Go visit a hotel, I'd never bring a whore to my house. Never would that cross my mind, tbh. I believe that's how Lordgoro does it and because he was homeless anyway.

I'd believe you'd need to keep protection on you in case of something, but atleast you could probably pay after than before or the foid would bend more easily to let's say, lower down the pay rate if you decide to go back. Can't do shit in a brothel since the foid will always get over on you, screw that...

And fuck independent escorts as well, it's just the same as a brothel. Overpriced as well, but you probably get more free will than getting cucked out of it.

Because I did not want to die a virgin. The fear of being in my 30s or 40s and realising I am still a virgin while normies have been having sex since their teens was way bigger than any sort of social anxiety I may have had. That's why I keep calling you guys volcels, you guys clearly lack the level of desperation that a truecel like me was feeling. The only reason why I didn't do this sooner was because of a lack of money. I felt fucking ashamed for having to fap to porn while I knew so many people out there were enjoying the real thing. And the real thing to me is not about a foid liking you, it's about sex.
I would not care, I'd gladly keep the thing if it meant that I didn't bend the knee to soyciety's fucked up plays. The shit still doesn't count.

Even if you pay or if you don't pay and keep the shit, I'd rather be a virgin who still has money to cope for MYSELF and my rent than some foid and her own needs.

Jfl at anyone who does this as well and doesn't realize they're paying a foid's mortgage like simps do. Okay, but don't judge simps when you do the same thing.

Like I said, hypocrites are a cancer and I can't stand that clownery. It's like you're shady to an extent, maybe not to the normfag extent but still.

And for me as well, I don't fap to the normal cuck porn. I fap to the porn that normfags get enraged over and I have no regrets about it.

In my choices, being based is always one of them unless it's what I worked for or need to survive that's on the line atleast...

And the real thing to me is not about a foid liking you, it's about sex.
Same thing to me, but I ain't going to fucking pay for it... Jfl. I'd take a dead body (in Minecraft, ofc) if it meant it was for free, idgaf.
 

Iblis

Whoremaxxer
In nowhere in the books, did it say it even counted
What books? You're just making shit up now. Virginity just means never having had sex before. You're the one adding extra definitions.

Not even going to reply to the rest since it's mostly just repeating what you already said.
 

Ismail Ax

"Outrun your problem" Initiate
Sorry, but I can't help but compare this whole argument with something like this:
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It's just hilariously Bluepilled and simp-ish, tbh...
 
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